Poetry Forms - the letter C

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by DoctorGamgee » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:23 am

That is just great, Daisy Gold. I liked it quite a lot. You may not be keen on it, but you have captured the spirit of New Year to a T.

Well done!

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by Primula » Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:41 am

I really enjoyed this, Daisy! This verse especially :

Beat the drums, let trumpets play,
Sing and dance the hours away,
Then to greet the new-born day.
And raise a toast to the New Year.

Sounds exceedingly Tolkienish - a meeting of 'tip the glasses, crack the plates' with all the horn honking at the Party perhaps. :-) Or like something Sancho would've scratched into the walls of Bilbo's pantry some late somewhat soused evening.

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by Primula » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:13 am

Time to resurrect our poetic muses! Let's take a little trip back to Ireland for a small dose of bardic verse, the type that is sometimes termed 'thickly textured.'

The Casbairdne(cross-bOOyer-dne) is a challenging little jog into internal rhyming. According to the good Mr. Turco it is:
...
* a quatrain stanza (FOUR lines per stanza)
* of heptasyllabic lines with trisyllabic endings. (Seven syllables per line, with the last word having 3 of them)
* Lines two and four rhyme
* Lines one and three consonate with them (echo the sound without directly rhyming)
* There ought to be at least two cross-rhymes in each couplet.
* Two words alliterate in each line (that is, they start with the same letter)
* The final word of line four alliterates with the preceding stressed word.


1. x x b x (x x ac)
2. x a x x (x x bc)
3. x x x b (x x dc)
4. x x c x (x x bc)

Of course, that all sounds a bit formidable - but we can go for simplified/adapted as needed, indeed the example he then gives he admits does not use the trisyllable endings.

Two verses from his rather long example, a modified Old English poem titled The Ruin by 'Alexander':

Well wrought, this wall that fate felled,
The fort failed, smoke cast its pall,
Snapped tall roofs: towers fallen
On the trollmen's stone-hard hall.

Rime scoiled gatekeeps; the mortar
Shattered, slate-shower-shields moulder.
Age ate them, wright and wielder;
Earth-grip clasps builder, elder.

etc. etc.


These are a bit like doing macrame with words, so this is my own rather little attempt:

Pilling the Cat

I'm a sinful simpleton,
Must shun, wasted medicine:
Clawing cat runs mettlesome,
Again same jaw jettisons.

:lala:

Your turn! Have courage - I promise the next one is much easier.
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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by DoctorGamgee » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:31 am

Horrid Hepta-Syllables

Devlish devised rhyming scheme,
Vicious, vexing, heart rending.
Heaven help us! Now 'tis seen,
Horrid Heptas -- Mind bending!

Seven Syllables are hard
For a giggling guy like me!
Singing Sonnets, leads toward
"I'm an Iamb" unlike thee!

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by Primula » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:14 pm

:mambo: Oh, well done! You inspire me to go try again - though whether I find it 'postable' quality or not remains to be seen.

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by DoctorGamgee » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:22 am

I am not sure I did it right after looking at the pattern (something I didn't do first time around--I just read the directions without the graph). And I only spent about 10 minutes on it. I will try to find time for a second go-round and match it exactly to what you have shown ...

But thank you! I'm glad you liked it.

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by daisy gold » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:22 am

Devlishly good Dr G. :clap:

Poor kitty...can't take it's medicine. You make me feel for your cat Prim, well done. :-)

Can't say I have ever heard of this kind of rhyme but then we did very little Irish Lit in school...that's over 40 yrs ago. I sure things have changed since then.
Prim , This is a very tricky one . I don't understand the part about 'two cross-rhymes in each couplet'. :whack:
I'll go for the simplified version first.
He beheld white shores and beyond them a far green country under a swift sunrise.

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by daisy gold » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:01 am

Back again.

Sanctuary

Rambling roses, colours bright,
Pleasing perfumes bring delight,
To my garden, day and night,
Soothes my soul, then peace alights.
He beheld white shores and beyond them a far green country under a swift sunrise.

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by Primula » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:45 pm

A cross-rhyme is where there is a rhyme in a different line, but it lands somewhere in the middle instead of at the end. Here's an example with both an embedded cross-rhyme and a 'regular' (i.e. one is at the end of its line) one:


Earthspring, the sweetest season
Loud the birdsong, sprouts ripple,
Plough in furrow, ox in yoke,
Sea like smoke, fields in stipple.


(from 'Spring Song' - anonymous Welsh)
Some forms leave it up to the poet where to put the cross-rhyme, others specify which syllable/line it must appear on.

And your poem is beautiful! :sparkle: Wow, I would paint that on my wall in scripty lettering just to have it greet me each morning.

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by DoctorGamgee » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:09 am

That really is lovely, DaisyGold. Well done.

Thanks for the clarification, Prim. I will give it another go now...but I teach this morning, so won't be able to post it until this afternoon.

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by daisy gold » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:24 pm

Thank you DR G and Primula.

The clarification only makes it clearer how hard this type of poem is.
But I too will have another go. :faint:
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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by DoctorGamgee » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:13 pm

One more try:

First Day of Class...

Sitting silent, students sigh
Drumming dude enters and sits.
Teacher talking; learned, wise,
Walking, wond'ring, "I'm the Pits?!"

Cunning Crafter, breaks the ice
Deftly dancing, stunning spin
Mildly melting, wayword mice
Guile and gambolling, onward, in!

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by Primula » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:58 pm

Ooh - it even sort of makes sense, which is a difficult hurdle to cross on some of these. Go forth, brave teacher, go forth and conquer!
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Hm...

Gone the way of the Stegosaurus

Like the morphing meteors
Seen (oracle's semaphore),
Dying, orphaned dinosaurs,
Might enmorgue in metaphor.


Um...okay, it kinda makes sense... I asked my kids for four three-syllable words that sort of rhymed and this is the result.

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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by DoctorGamgee » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:58 am

Dense Doc's Poetry

Dense Doc's Head's a Stalagmite
(Much more drippish...Stalagtite?)
Either answer, Throglodite's
Putrid Poem wastes Kilobites!
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Re: Poetry Forms - the letter C

Post by Primula » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:52 am

:haha:
We should save some of this for our next Bad Poetry contest, I swear.

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